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Overview of Types of Plaques (Customer Groups)

This picture shows the wide variety of styles of our dimensional wall plaques for Federal and State governments, military, police, universities and clubs. Some plaques are carved in 3-D bas-relief, others in 2.5-D relief. Shown are painted HDU, brass and aluminum-plated, 24K gold-leaf gilded, and stained Cedar, Oak and Mahogany plaques.

All our Plaques are made in the USA by American craftsmen.

This section describes the types of custom plaques we have made for a wide variety of customers. We make beautiful custom, unique  plaques for  Federal, state and local government agencies, the Congress and state legislatures,  federal & state courts, all five military services, corporations & companies, universities, churches, sports teams, fraternal and service organizations, and homes. All our plaques are manufactured in the USA by American craftsmen.

We have made over several thousand custom plaques for a wide variety of Federal government organizations across the US, including the White House,  Executive Departments and their agencies, Congress, over 50 Federal and State Courts, and over 30 Embassies and Consulates. We have made over a thousand plaques featuring the seals, crests, badges, awards, memorials, ships, and command boards for the Department of Defense and the five military services and their units.

We have designed and fabricated thousands of plaques of seals of  various state, county, city and village  governments and their police, sheriff and fire departments, You can also view  on this site hundreds of custom plaques we made for universities, schools, fraternities & sororities, churches, companies, clubs, and families which feature their seals, logos, emblems, badges, crests and coat-of-arms.  These categories are briefly described on this page below. However, you can go directly to one of these customer  photo gallery pages  by clicking on a category listed  above (below the gold masthead, scroll up if this menu is hidden) , or a link in the next section below Fig 1. 

If you have questions on where you might find a specific type of plaque, ou are always welcome to call Christie or Regina at 951-698-8484 or you can email us at info@artsignworks.com to get more information, to describe a plaque you want made, or to get  prices.

Fig 1 - Examples of Different Plaque Types and Styles  for Government, Military, and University Organizations

Descriptions and dozens to several hundred  photos of examples of each of the different types of plaques and customer categories we make can be seen by clicking on an item with gold text below. These web pages can also be accessed by using the pulldown menus under TYPE in the gold masthead at the top of the page.

GOVERNMENTS

COURTS

MILITARY

POLICE & FIRE

COLLEGES/SCHOOLS

CLUBS/COMPANIES/SPORTS

Each of these types are briefly described below, with a few examples given in each of the photo montages. To see many more photo examples, please visit that web page by clicking on one of the "type" links in the text immediately above each of photo montages below, or you can click on one of the links in the list immediately above, or you can use the pull-down menu under "TYPE" in the gold masthead at the top of the page and click on an item.

Plaques of Federal Executive and Legislative Branch Seals & Logos

We make 2-D flat relief, 2.5-D multi-level and engraved relief,  and 3-D bas-relief wall and podium wall plaques for all Federal Government  organizations, including the White House, Congress, the 15 Executive Departments, and dozens of agencies, services, commissions, divisions, committees,  etc. A few examples are shown in Fig 2 below.  Our computer graphic artists begin with the image of the seal, and then make either 2-D, 2,5-D , or 3-D geometrical software models of the seal. For the 2.5-D and 3-D models,  they develop raised surfaces of various elements of the scenes using computer programs, which then control our computer-numerically-controlled carving machines. We have a library of over 200 of the  2.5-D and 3-D models of the artwork for Federal government seals already developed, which can be used to carve any size plaque. We can make plaques of  standard official seals, or we can customize or personalize plaques with names, dates, citations, etc. These plaques can be made for individuals as well as organizations. They are suitable for hanging  outside of building entrances, or inside a building in briefing rooms, lobbies, conference rooms, hallways, offices or on a podium.  Like all our plaques, our 2.5-D and 3-D government plaques can be painted in full-color, plated with various metals, or carved in natural wood. To see over 100 examples of these plaques, please visit our Federal Government Plaques page. 

Plaques of State Government Great Seals & Agency Seals & Logos

We have designed and fabricated wall plaques featuring the great seal of nearly all of the   50 states of the US.  A few examples are shown in Fig 3 below. We can carve  2-D flat relief, 2.5-D flat or engraved relief, or 3-D bas-relief plaques of  standard official seals, or we can customize or personalize plaques with names, dates, citations, etc. These plaques can be made for individuals as well as organizations. They are suitable for hanging  outside of building entrances, or inside a building in lobbies, conference rooms, hallways, offices or on a podium. Like all our plaques,the 2.5-D and 3-D plaques can be painted in full-color, plated with various metals, or carved in natural wood. To see over 50 examples of these plaques, please visit our State Governments webpage.

Plaques of County, City & Village Seals & Logos

We have designed and fabricated hundreds of wall and podium plaques featuring the seal or logo of counties, cities, towns and villages across the USA.   A few examples are shown in Fig. 4 below.  Our computer graphic artists convert the printed image of the seal or logo to a 3-D bas-relief or 2.5-D flat relief geometric model using a computer program, which then controls our computer-numerically-controlled carving machines. We can make custom plaques of  any seal or logo, and can include photos, names, dates, citations, etc. These plaques can be  incorporated into entrance or wayfinding street signage,  mounted outside of a building entrance, or hung inside a building in lobbies, conference rooms, hallways, offices or on a podium. Like all our plaques, they can be painted in full-color, plated with bronze, brass, copper or silver,  or carved in natural or stained mahogany, cedar or redwood. To see over 150 examples, please visit our County and City, Town & Village government plaques webpages.

Plaques of Federal, State and Municipal Court Seals

Courtroom plaques are one of our specialties. We have designed and fabricated several hundred wall and podium plaques featuring the seal or logo of Federal, State and Municipal Courts throughout the USA.   A few examples are shown in Fig. 5 below. Our computer graphic artists convert the printed image of the seal or logo to a 3-D bas-relief or 2.5-D flat relief geometric model using a computer program, which then controls our computer-numerically-controlled carving machines. We can make custom plaques of  any seal or logo from 10 inches to 10 feet in diameter, and can include the name of the court, the judge, dates, citations, etc. into the design of the plaque. These handsome plaques can be  placed on a monument entrance sign,  mounted outside of a building entrance, or hung on an interior  wall in  a courtroom,  judge chambers, lobbies, conference rooms, hallways, offices or on a podium. Like all our plaques, they can be painted in full-color, plated with bronze, brass, copper or silver,  or carved in natural or stained mahogany, cedar or redwood. However, by far the most popular are our bronze- and brass-plated wall plaques. These typically are are carved in 3-D bas-relief  and are 24 inches to 60 inches in diameter. These look identical to cast bronze plaques, but cost 1/3 as much, weigh 1/5 as much, last just as long, and are easy to mount on a courtroom wall above the judge's bench without major remodeling, which might be required to support the weight of a large cast bronze plaque. To see over 150 examples of these and other court plaques, please visit our Federal Court,  State Court, and County/Municipal Court  webpages.

Plaques of Military Seals, Unit Crests, Insignia, & Command Boards

We make more military plaques than any other application. We have designed and fabricated over 700 plaques of different designs for the Department of Defense and the five services, the US Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, Army and Coast Guard.  A few examples are shown in Fig. 6 below. We can carve  2-D flat relief, 2.5-D flat or engraved relief, or 3-D bas-relief plaques of  standard official seals, crests, insignia , logos, badges or pins, ,or we can customize or personalize plaques with names, dates, citations, etc. These plaques can be made for individuals as well as organizations. They are suitable for hanging  outside of building entrances, or inside a building in lobbies, conference rooms, hallways, offices or on a podium. We can make custom plaques of any unit's  insignia, crest or logo from 10 inches to 10 feet in diameter, and can incorporate the name of the unit , personnel, dates, citations, etc. into the design of the plaque. These handsome plaques can be  placed on a post-and-panel  entrance sign,  mounted outside of a building entrance, or hung on interior walls of  lobbies, conference rooms, hallways, or offices . Small plaques can be mounted on a podium.  Like all our plaques, they can be painted in full-color, plated with bronze, brass, copper or silver,  or carved in natural or stained mahogany, cedar or redwood. However,  the most popular ones are our full-color painted 2.5-D wall plaques featuring unit crests or seals. We also make hundreds of 3-D carved plaques of  official seals of the five services. These typically are 18 inches to 36 inches in diameter.  Our lowest price plaques are our 2-D digitally printed giclee plaques, with either a mahogany or acrylic base. To see over 400 examples of our military plaques,  please visit our  six  web pages for the DoD/Agencies, US Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, Army, and Coast Guard.

Plaques of Police, Sheriff & Firefighter Badge & Shoulder Patches

We make a large number of custom plaques featuring police and sheriff badges and shoulder patches for state, county, city and village law enforcement departments across the USA.  We also make many different plaques of fire department badges.  A few examples are shown in Fig. 7 below.  Our computer graphic artists convert the printed image of the seal or logo to a 3-D bas-relief or 2.5-D flat relief geometric model using a computer program, which then controls our computer-numerically-controlled carving machines. We can make custom plaques of any department's badge or shoulder patch from 12 inches to 10 feet in diameter, and can incorporate the name of the unit, personnel, dates, citations, etc. into the design of the plaque. These can be made for the department or an individual, and make excellent gifts for promotions, retirements, or memorials. These handsome plaques can  mounted outside of a building entrance, or hung on interior walls of  lobbies, conference rooms, hallways, or offices . Smaller plaques can be mounted on a podium.  Like all our plaques, they can be painted in full-color, plated with bronze, brass, copper or silver,  or carved in natural or stained mahogany, cedar or redwood. However, by far the most popular ones are our brass or silver-plated  3-D carved plaques of  badges. We also make many full-color painted plaques of police shoulder patches and fire department badges. These typically are 18 inches to 36 inches in diameter, although we have made some 10 feet tall.  We also offer lower price 2-D flat plaques, which feature giclee images printed on vinyl appliques mounted on either a mahogany or acrylic base. To see over 150 examples of our badge and shoulder patch plaques,  please visit our Police & Sheriff , or Fire Fighter/Emergency Services   webpages.

Plaques of University, High School, Fraternity & Sorority Seals & Crests

We have made hundreds of wall and podium plaques for universities, colleges, fraternities & sororities, high school & prep schools, and middle & elementary schools across the USA. These typically feature seals, crests and logos. A few examples are shown in Fig. 8 below.  Our computer graphic artists convert the printed image of the seal or logo to a 3-D bas-relief or 2.5-D flat relief geometric model using a computer program, which then controls our computer-numerically-controlled carving machines. We can make custom plaques of any seal, crest  or logo, and can include photos, names, dates, citations, etc. These plaques can be  incorporated into entrance signage,  mounted outside of a building entrance, or hung inside a building in entrance halls, auditoriums, gymnasiums, conference rooms, hallways, offices or on a podium. Like all our plaques, they can be painted in full-color, plated with bronze, brass, copper or silver,  or carved in natural or stained mahogany, cedar or redwood. We also offer lower price 2-D flat plaques, which feature giclee images printed on vinyl appliques mounted on either a mahogany or acrylic base. To see over 150 examples of these plaques, please visit our university & college,  fraternity & sorority , and high school /prep school  webpages.

Plaques of Seals & Logos for Veteran, Fraternal & Service Clubs, Corporations, Sports Teams, Homes, Families, and Memorials

We make custom carved wall and podium plaques for veterans, fraternal, service and activity clubs, corporations & companies, sports teams, homes & families, and memorials for clients across the USA. These typically feature seals, emblems, badges, crests, coat-of-arms,  logos, or photos  as artwork. A few examples are shown in Fig. 9 below.  Our computer graphic artists convert a photo or  printed image of the seal or logo to a 3-D bas-relief , 2.5-D multi-level or 2-D relief geometric model using a computer program, which then controls our computer-numerically-controlled carving machines.  All our plaques are hand-carved and hand-sanded by skilled craftsmen after initial machine carving. We can make custom plaques of any seal, crest  or logo, and can include photos, names, dates, citations, etc. These plaques can be incorporated  into entrance signage,  mounted outside of a building entrance, or hung inside a building in lobbies,  auditoriums, conference rooms, hallways, offices or on a podium. Like all our plaques, they can be painted in many colors, plated with bronze, brass, copper or nickel-silver, gilded with 24K gold or fine silver leaf,  or carved in natural or stained mahogany, cedar or redwood. We also offer lower price 2-D flat plaques, which feature giclee images printed on vinyl appliques mounted on either a mahogany or acrylic base. To see over 250 examples of these plaques, please visit our veteran, fraternal & service club, corporation & company, sports team, family coat-of-arms/crestsfamily/home, and memorial plaques  webpages.

PLEASE CONTACT US

Please call or email us for a price quote on a specific plaque. We will work with you to design and build the exact plaque you want. Our knowledgeable and helpful Customer Service Representatives, Christie and Regina, will respond to your request promptly. Call us at 951-698-8484 or email us at info@artsignworks.com. Or, you can fill out and submit our on-line Request a Quote  form. We would like to make your  plaque, and we are confident that you will be pleased with it. We take great pride in every product we make for our valued clients. We offer a 2 year warranty on all our products, and our indoor plaques will last many decades without degradation.

WEBSITE NAVIGATION

You can go to another Section or Gallery page by clicking on an item in the pull-down menus in the gold masthead at the top of the page.  You  can search for a specific plaque type (e.g., "FBI" ) by entering the key word in the search box in the upper right of the gold masthead. You can view a list and use the navigation bar for all 24  Gallery types by viewing the silver box on the left side of the HOME page. You can view a description of different plaque styles by going to the STYLE section.  To request information, ask for a design and  quote, send a file,  or  place an order, click on the text (e.g., "contact ", "quote", "file" or " order")  in the upper  right of the gold masthead at the top right of this page.  All prices are given on the "PRICE" web page accessed by clicking on PRICE in the gold masthead. 

For more information on design options, prices and delivery times, please call us at 951-698- 8484 or email us at info@artsignworks.com, and our knowledgeable and friendly customer service representatives Christie and Regina will be pleased to help you.

TESTIMONIALS

Regina, We received the two (large stained mahogany) crests for the Army War College today- they look great!  We are extremely impressed with the quality and overall appearance.  They are exactly what we were hoping for. Thanks again- Dave D.,CIV USARMY AWC (US)  

Christie  Thank you! And everyone LOVED the plaques. Excellent work!!Thank you again!  A.K., – Executive Assistant to the Chief ,  Pleasant Hill Police Department, CA

Hello Regina, Just received the (three New York City Fire Chief) badge  (plaques) .  They are superb. Making everyone stop and check them out.  Thank you again, Brian, PAUL SIGNS

Hi Christie, We received our (Iowa) Seal Friday and it looks great! We would like to purchase 10 more. Could you send us an invoice and I will send you a PO?  Thank you, K.R.

Christina,I just got back from lunch and unpackaged the plaque. IT IS GORGEOUS! Thank you for your help with this project.,   E., , Visual Communications Specialist, FASTSIGNS Norman

Hey Regina,I rcvd the seals (for the President and VP of the US)  and they look great.  Thank you very much.  Can you send me an invoice/receipt for the second/final pymnt charged to our card?  Thanks. T.B.,US Secret Service.

Good morning, Regina.     I showed my boss the seal today (State of Florida House of Representatives plaque) and we are all VERY pleased with how it came out. Absolutely stunning work. We’ve been in touch with our billing department for the remaining balance due and you should receive payment soon. My boss is already wanting to get more of these.How much per seal, is there a discount for batch orders, and what other texture/colors do you have access to? Thanks so much once again, Regina!       Daniel

Regina, Wow! The product is incredible! Thank you so much for all your help. It was a pleasure working with you. ..Very Respectfully,Cam 

Hi Christie, again the plaque is beautiful, you guys did a fantastic job, the President is so happy he would like another one exactly the same to put in his house on campus. Can I order another one for delivery as soon as possible? Also, in future if we order more, is there a discounted price for volume, or are they individually ordered…thanks again Christie.    L.C., Finance/Administration, Office of the President ,University of British Columbia

Hi Christie,   Happy Friday!    We all love the seal, it turned out wonderful!  Can I place an order for another one?  We want it to look exactly the same but the next one can have the z-clip hardware.   Thank you, H. T., Second District Court of Appeal

Good afternoon Regina:  The NY Court Seal arrived Thursday afternoon on October 26th. Had it installed Monday, October 30th. Looks great.  I am very happy.  Thanks for all you did for us. B. H., New York

Hi Regina, Just wanted to let you know the medallions arrived. They look great! Thanks, Erik Dressler, Principal

Regina, We received the plaques and they look great. Quality workmanship and product – especially the 3 levels – didn’t expect that. Great work. I’m sure we will use you in the future, Thanks. M.C, Centric Signs, Novato,CA 

Hi Christie, Well arrived, thanks for all. Very Nice product ! Congratulations to your firm. See you. Michel M.

Regina, We got it (3-D carved police badge wall plaque) today and it looks amazing!  Very good job!  Could you please send me the receipt for the remainder of the cost that was put on  my p-card?  Thanks again,, N. B.,, Certified Law Enforcement Planner, Athens-Clarke County Police Department

Christie , We received our beautiful "County Commission" sign Thursday.  Thank you for working with us.  If I can be a reference for future Customers, please refer them to me. Thanks again.      G.W. , Commissioner  St. Francois County, Farmington, Mo

Hi Christie,    Just got the White House  plaque and it is excellent in all respects.  Kudos to you and the artists who made it.  All the best, Scott B.

Hi Regina, The plaques are outstanding. We had an unveiling at our Memorial Day service at our plant.They will be on permanent display at our Veteran/POW/MIA area.    Thank you,, R.A., Boston P&DC, Boston

Good Morning Ms. Valenzuela,
I just wanted to say that we've received them (Coast Guard wall plaques) and are very pleased with them. Thank you for all the assistance. Very Respectfully, J.J., USCG Station 

Regina, I went to Fox and un-crated it on Friday, it looks great, in fact  the owner of the business was impressed as well, and has already been on your web site considering signage for his business.  Thank you for your assistance in making the plaque honoring our retired Officers so easy! Sgt. K.G.

Hi Christie! 
Yes, the seal arrived in perfect condition.  Everyone here loves it!  Thanks for all your help with this. 
Thanks again, R.J.,  | Procurement Specialist, US District Court of Maryland - Greenbelt

Regina, Thank you, thank you … you are such a great company and client feels this as well!. Good to go! Monica Kline Fine Corporate Gifts

Christie,, As you will recall, your company created a single sided brass seal for Yancey County back in August.  ..The seal was great and we were very pleased. We want to order a second seal plaque , same as the last one; and  I would like to have the digital file of the seal. I need the highest resolution of the seal that I can get for a separate project I am working on, and hoped you may be able to assist with that ...  Please advise on the best way to proceed on both items.Thanks,N.B.

Paul , That would be fine (to put our sign on your website)....Also, Christie was exceptional to work with...outstanding customer service! J.K., Tinker AFB, Oklahoma

Christie, We received our sign today...looks fantastic! The bolts all aligned, and it is installed--man, heavy sign--but looks beautiful--you guys do great work! J.K., Tinker AFB

Good afternoon We received the plaque & everyone (which is important) likes it. The invoice goes before the Town Board on 2/14/2017 for approval & the check goes in the mail shortly there after. S.S., Richmond Town Court

Good Morning Christie, I wanted to let you know that everyone is very pleased with our new plaques! We appreciate the great work that you guys did on them. R.C.,Los Banos Fire Department

Regina,    We received the seal this morning. It looks great!!
Thank-You so much for expediting the order & having it here before the "no later than date".
Thanks again, you have exceeded our expectations!!!! A.N., Technical Director

Christie,   The box with the sign you all created for me came today.  I have to say....AWESOME!  Perfect!  Paint job is just fantastic!  Really well done!    Well done! The sign just makes me giggle         Ed

Dear Regina, Received the (US) Great Seal plaque today wanted to let you know how pleased I  was with work I am thinking about ordering a similar size plaque of the  Great Seal of the President of the United States I suppose you make those as well?  is the price the same? do you have a photo you could e-mail me ?  thank you again for a fine piece of Art Great Job! Best , Larry Zimmer

Awesome!!!! The Military Seals were excellent!!!! Great job to the team!!!!  I’ll send a photo for your gallery.
Thanks, Daniel .H., Facilities Team

Hi Regina.  We got the seal and it is beautiful!  Thank you. Kathy Longyear, Court Clerk

Hi Regina, ... It was certainly a pleasure working with your company, and I look forward to another project in the near future. Have a great weekend!  Thanks, Denise, Jonathan Louis Marketing

Dear Art Sign Works: The Town of Clinton,  NY placed an order for a Single sided HDU 24" in diameter and we received it this week.  It is beautiful! I was wondering, our county is doing an exhibit on our town and would like to have some bags made up with the this logo on it.  Is there any way I can get the logo in an electronic file that I can send to the Clinton County Historical office so they can have the recyclable bags made?  Thank you.   K.R., Town of Clinton  NOTE: We sent it to her free of charge

Good morning Regina, I rec'd the plaque yesterday and it is a work of art!  Kudo's to the artist! lol!... Thanks for all you do!     Semper Fidelis, Hal 

Regina… Our plaque is awesome! Thanks, Mike Mulcahy

Art SignWorks,  Received the military seals yesterday and I want to tell you they are absolutely stunning. They were perfectly packed and ups never made a mark on the box. Thank you so very much. They will make a perfect addition to our social quarters. I know our veterans will thank you also. Again my thanks to you and your craftsmen for God and Country    David B., 1st Vice commander, American Legion, Virginia

Art SignWorks,   I just wanted to thank you for our new sign. We received it on last Thursday afternoon. It looks absolutely AMAZING! It is exactly what we were looking for. We have 2 offices in North Carolina that may need a sign made in the future so I will let you know. Thank you again, Anne-Simms H.

ASW;  We love, love, love it...we just got our sign and it is fantastic! We enjoyed working with you on this.   S.D.

Art SignWorks; They are beautiful!!! Just beautiful and the quality is the best. Thank you for taking good care of me. M. K.

Art SignWorks;  The signs are awesome, we need another please. Thanks for the great service and answering all my questions. C. Chang

Hi Christie,  I never thanked you for our order.(30 inch US Senate seal wall plaque) We received it Wednesday and it looks great, as usual. Until next time. Best, KeeKee

Hi Christie,  Let's go for 36 x 24, we are excited!! You have been a GREAT help in assisting me... Fantastic customer service. I will fill out the form shortly. Thank you. Peter G.

Christie,  I saw the PSA sign as well as the bronze California seal. it is awesome too. Thanks so much for the great craftsmanship. All my best, Jeanne

Christie, The sign arrived today and it is beyond our expectations! We love it. Thank you. Thanks so much. Lee T.

Christie,  The sign is just beautiful! We are really pleased. Doing something like this over the internet isn't always so successful, but Art Sign Works creates an excellent product and the customer service is terrific.Thank you so much for all your help and for the wonderful design and execution of our new sign. Shelley and Gary

Hi Christie,  Just to let you know that the FDIC OIG plaque arrived at my door at about 7:30 am this morning. I was shocked at the speedy service. The item arrived in Sydney, Australia on Saturday mid day. So its arrived safe and sound. I must say it looks striking. So an excellent job done on it.   I put it up in my living room for the moment over my most memorable government plaques. It certainly has a distinctive look. Again thank you for the excellent workmanship and service.See attached photos of item in my living room. I have advised the NASA special agent that your company can make the NASA OIG plaque. I will now send him pictures of the FDIC OIG plaque here with me now .   Again thank you.  Regards,James  

Art SignWorks: Thank you for my beautiful sign. The craftsmanship is excellent. It looks exactly like the samples we created in photoshop. I couldn’t be more happy with it. I will recommend you to anyone! ( :Thank you, thank you, thank you! ( : Yasha

Hi Christie/ Kevin, Received the sign today and it looks amazing. Great job !!!. I like the way the HDU material captured the logo design .I will send photos after it is hung.Thanks again. Frank V.

Hello!    We received our signs last week, and they are absolutely beautiful! You exceeded our expectations, and everyone is thrilled with the final product. Thank you so much, we really appreciate everything you did for us, especially your patience. We will certainly use you in the future, and we will definitely recommend you to others. Thanks again, M.T., Volunteer/Event Coordinator Austin, TX

Christie & Kevin,  The sign arrived yesterday and is perfect. Thank You...Please let me know if all is OK concerning payment. Again, Thank you for a very impressive sign. Dick D. Christie, Here is a picture of the AWESOME sign you made! Feel free to use it on your website. We could not be more pleased! Thanks, Jerry

Hi Christie, The sign has arrived and it is really lovely! The quality of the sign is a good as we hoped and expected! Thank you! D.D. Good Morning…… we received our signs yesterday. They arrived safe and sound and are very nice. Thanks for the great work........ Sincerely, L.J. Customer Service Manager

Christie and Kevin, It arrived yesterday and I have one word: WOW! It’s absolutely perfect – thanks for all your help!" K.J.L.